The “conflict lies in perception”: Evolution and Creationism

by William Atkins

Friday, 22 August 2008

Page 2 of 3 The following is the interview Dr. Ayala provided to the HHMI Bulletin. HHMI: YOU ARE THE LEAD AUTHOR OF A MAJOR 2008 REPORT [pdf file] ARGUING THAT EVOLUTION IS SETTLED SCIENCE, AND CREATIONISM SHOULD NOT BE TAUGHT IN SCIENCE CLASSES. MANY PEOPLE ASSUMED THAT THIS ISSUE WAS RESOLVED IN 2005, WITH THE COURT RULING IN DOVER, PENNSYLVANIA, THAT “INTELLIGENT DESIGN”—THE LATEST FACE OF CREATIONISM—IS RELIGION, NOT SCIENCE. IS THERE STILL A PROBLEM? FA: Yes, unfortunately so. The courts have settled the issue many times, starting with a decision of the Supreme Court in 1968 that Arkansas could not prohibit the teaching of evolution in its public schools. Then came the idea of “creation science,” and the Court ruled in 1987 that it was actually religious teaching and therefore could not be mandated in the public schools. Next, the conversion to “intelligent design” took place. Some school boards tried, as in Dover, to introduce it as a scientific theory, comparable to evolution. The federal court in the Dover district decisively knocked down this claim. The judge, John Jones, said that intelligent design is creationism and the Dover school board was trying to introduce religion into public school classes, which the U.S. Constitution forbids. But that court does not have authority in the rest of the United States. Creationism is still a live issue in Florida, Kansas, Louisiana, Alabama, Michigan, and Missouri—other places. One new tactic is to seek to protect any teachers who attempt to debunk evolution in their classes, as a matter of “academic freedom.” HHMI: SOME ARGUE THAT SCHOOLS SHOULD TEACH THE CONTROVERSY BETWEEN INTELLIGENT DESIGN AND EVOLUTION. FA: Yes, even the president of the United States said that not so long ago, to which my response was, well, maybe we should teach astrology with astronomy, and alchemy with chemistry, and witchcraft with medicine. Because intelligent design is not science, it is not something to be taught as an alternative. HHMI: ALMOST HALF OF AMERICANS, ACCORDING TO RECENT GALLUP POLLS, SAY THAT EVOLUTION AND RELIGION CANNOT COEXIST. WHY IS EVOLUTION SO CONTESTED IN THE UNITED STATES, AT LEAST IN CERTAIN AREAS? FA: The United States was largely founded by people who were being persecuted for religious reasons. I think love for religion predisposes citizens in this country toward the perception of a conflict with science. On top of that, the idea is pervasive that science tends to be materialistic. What does Dr. Ayala mean by "materialistic"? Please read page three. << First page <   1 2 3 Next page > Last page - Post your comment >>

 

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